at least three people were killed as kiev relaunches its crackdown on ukraine's east where people are defying the interim government and demanding greater autonomy for their regions. on the mantel heads to washington to discuss further sanctions on russia over ukraine with germany's big business and strongly opposing them and. nato second in command says moscow is now considered an public person and not a partner because of this wall in the ukrainian crisis. hello and welcome to r.t.

international twenty four hour news live from moscow our thanks for joining us. and we start with breaking news on r.c. at least two ukrainian troops and one self-defense find to have been killed after a key of launched a military assault on the eastern city of slovyansk which is how government protesters the city in the donetsk region has a population of just over one hundred thousand and it's now blockaded with people unable to evacuees the area. as you can see here crowds of desperate on armed locals have been trying to prevent ukraine's military hardware from advancing by simply astounding in the way where the troops didn't seem all that concerned the operation which kicked off a dawn came from both rounds and ground and their helicopters were sent to the road the skies over sly beyond but two were gunned down by the self defense forces the ukrainian army decided to hold their air raids following the crash.

and injured pilot was taken to hospital by the self-defense forces partly as footage of him after his helicopter hit the ground the man helping him to safety seemed to be an take of it's one of the self defense fighters the pilot was abandoned. when the second helicopter was shot down we wanted to get closer but decided to save the first pilot he was abandoned by his own people they came up to him and took away his gun. oxalis across ukraine southeast have been demanding a referendum to split from care for months and they're also been saying they want there right away russian speaking ukrainians to be respected and they fear the extremists threat within the interim government in a while and on the unit of people dressed in the uniform of the new no also right sector group has reportedly landed just outside. their reports we are hearing

reports that members of the right stick to have arrived via helicopter we're being told they're heavily armed and that they have the uniforms of the right sector so that is how they are being easily identified as you can well imagine tensions are running high it's taken us about four hours to actually enter the town it is completely closed off you have barricades and checkpoints at every single entrance and exit at the same time this is a town that is in lockdown the ukrainian military has completely surrounded it we're hearing from the ukrainian defense ministry that two of its pilots have been killed they're worth something between two and four helicopters that were downed earlier this morning we haven't been able to verify the numbers talking to the self defense units they say that one of their members has been killed at the same time we're also hearing from the ukrainian authorities that at least ten checkpoints have been captured now protesters have been building barricades around them they've been reinforcing them with sandbags at the same time locals of those town have been

coming forward to offer themselves as human shields trying to build a lot barricades in a way to this city center and hold the attackers as long as possible we are defending our city we don't want to let these logic or the creators come in we want an end to this crime against humanity in the southeast for how long do we have to be afraid children and the elderly the old people the veterans who are ready to take their crutches and fight for their children for now the city center is calm we're hearing shooting from the periphery this is a city where the it's the situation is extremely. people are preparing for a further onslaught by the ukrainian army. and paul is keeping you up to date with what's happening in flood balance follow her twitter feed for the latest on dates on the reported military operation of. the you says it's watching ukraine's military action in these with quote

a growing concern meanwhile expressing outrage over the use of military force against civilians moscow believes that kyo must inevitably be held accountable for waging war against its own people and he is. most says it condemns the use of forces in the operation in the town of slovyansk in the eastern part of ukraine and also condemns the participation of the members of the right sector group ukraine's the tories all the nationalist movement in operation russia's foreign ministry also size that it is very much concerned about and could reports of participation in this operation of foreigners earlier we also heard from russia's president vladimir putin spokesperson mr peskov that this operation anti terror peroration launched by kiev in the eastern and southern part of the country killed all the hopes for geneva peace accords. and investigative

journalist believes sending in the army against a civilian population could add fuel to the flames in ukraine. a spark is enough to light up for a refire on this could be the spark that likes the printer fire of the civil war in ukraine the art show king slovyansk effect which is a key city where protests are really advantaged and it's a huge provocation russia is waiting to see what's going to happen and the kremlin has already been very explicit if civilians ukrainian civilians are killed by the ukrainian army which is a mix of an army and a right sector militias in fact then to sink is going to be spiraling out of control and obviously we're russia doesn't want that but this is what nato once and this is what the kiev government wants. this isn't the first offensive launched by ukraine's military on pro autonomy protests as

a southeast ukraine last month an operational is going on they don't yet school returned but some of the tunnels that were send ended up signing with alex of as soon as they entered the rest of the region and just a week ago kiev launched a climb down on protesters in sloviansk as members of the right sector group taking . the lead we spoke to people in slavyansk has said there are phrased key of continues to violate the principles of democracy. i used to be in the military but i've never raised arms against civilians. the cry only democracy democracy live in democratic country but in reality explain to me where is it we don't even have the right to speak out they don't care about the south east they decided to work things out without us to choose a president without us where. we're standing for the right cause and we don't want to fight anyone we simply want to live in a civilized state where everyone's rights are respected and we don't want to keep

hunting to rule. will be closely following the situation mayster in ukraine we're a miniature operation to overtake the protests to help the city of slovyansk has been underway and will bring you the details as we get them. and after a short break we'll bring analysis on the u.s. and european sanctions against russia stay with us. unfortunately the european union and that's very unwise wants to expand its wants to have all the euro fall some brussels will still have mall mall and mall men bo'sun they forget that it's not only about themselves.

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this is our senior national welcome bark the german chancellor angela merkel is visiting washington for the first time says the revelations that the uighurs have been listening to her phone conversations which have the time she labeled completely unacceptable other unfortunate revelations included a league conversation between the u.s. diplomatic tori nuland and the american ambassador to ukraine where she didn't hold back in dismissing the merkel said to discuss the food free trade agreement between europe and the wires despite brussels concerns about the standard of some american products then they say spying is expected to be addressed as there's still been no clear resolution on the scoundrel all that has angela merkel is coming under pressure from major german companies who don't want more sanctions against russia over the ukrainian crisis as peter all of our reports. well an article in the wall street journal suggests very strongly that angle america has gone to the sea with a very clear message from german industry and that message is no more economic

sanctions against russia the real big hit is in the german corporate world the likes of b.s.f. the chemicals giant siemens the engineering group forks walk in deutsche bank they've all voiced concerns over potential sanctions further sanctions against russia we've seen public statements from some of the the real big hit is in the german corporate world all of the saying that they diplomatic route must be the only route to take in to try and find a solution to what's going on in ukraine and that that the business world should be allowed to go about its own business and not suffer at the hands of this when you look at the numbers you can see why they are concerned over six thousand german companies have involvement in russia over three hundred thousand jobs here in germany alone rely directly on that trade on trade partnership with russia that would be a lot of jobs to be put at risk should further sanctions be put into play so it

puts angela merkel in a difficult position when she goes to talk to barack obama both have backed sanctions in the past but they are now looking like they both want different kinds of sanctions to be put in place but the situation over sanctions isn't the only thing that they're going to be looking at and have a listen to my report right now to find out what else is going to be on the table it's sent to be a meeting between two of the world's most powerful leaders but there are more than rumblings that the balance of power in the relationship is very one sided but that then doesn't stand up in the cuts they had in this it's based in dependency through the u.s. denied spine and merkel cell phone ben admitted it no it just continues because of mamma says were reserved the right to collect information i just see and google merkel going to the us to pick up new instructions. the chancellor has come in for review could home for not pushing to allow edward snowden to give testimony at an investigation into n.s.a. activity in person her critics saying that she's looking to protect the image of

a u.s. partners mrs merkel's visit won't just be watched closely in germany many in europe are angry that no leader really stood up to the actions of the u.s. in the aftermath of snowden's revelations. trid is set to play a major role in the talks negotiations are still ongoing over the transatlantic trade and investment partnership or t.t. ip which could see an easing of current tight restrictions on the surface this could see both the e.u. and us profit but it won't cost to consumers to genetically modified food home and treated beef and chicken. in germany ninety six percent of people think that e.u. standards on environmental protection better than the u.s. on car safety the figures show ninety one percent in favor of the e.u. and on data protection eighty five percent didn't think the u.s. standards were up to the job more transparency is needed in te tip talks say those

standing against mrs merkel's party in upcoming e.u. elections. the whole negotiations are taking place behind closed doors amongst a small number of people we must be vigilant when this type of deal is done with third world nations are often attempts to undermine the legal system of that land we will not accept this. while germany and the united states remain the firmest of friends on the international stage when i'm going to medical sits down for talks with barack obama it looks likely that there will be some issues they certainly don't see eye to eye on. r.t. belin. let's now discuss this topic for. a business professor and an independent investment fund manager mr also thank you very much for joining us here at all same to national so we're talking about the last assigned but some losing a draw in many corporations do you

a saying it will be able to influence mrs merkel's decisions in terms of for the sanctions well i very much hope so when do the other thing when we talk about the free trade agreement there was a very famous letter by one famous publisher of broad publisher that publishes the papers develop and build and so on complaining about the powerful grip of google so it's really i mean those sanctions you can see a pattern in america is gaining from conflict in europe so america really has an interest in keeping conflicts in europe and ukraine alive or even escalating because it will hurt mostly german austrian companies it will hurt europe it will also of course flaws to some extent european countries lead us to realize rally behind america so indeed i will i was very positively surprised that german companies wrote this and it's a small sign of sanity in

a sea of insanity at this point so basically he is saying that all those sanctions will only backfire as germany has very very close ties with russia but even that america is pushing and pressuring germany to bring about more sanctions using that people in germany do understand the consequences. i think some people in germany luckily do understand before we get some some voices by condiments who are critical about the sanctions but really it's. those sanctions to go through and of already impose some of it will help america in many regards it will basically deepen the conflicts in europe will not help to yes. the late the crisis is an attempt to isolate russia. so it's really a geopolitical power move completely in the interest of the united states i'm not so sure it's in the interest of stability in europe and in the interests of germany or europe. but talking about the economy in global terms connie

who's the white house spokesperson says that these sanctions will impact the global economy as well as head russia only yes after the global economic crisis how why is it to upset the the the global economy that well we're talking about why as an unwise this is a very dangerous game that is being played here and it's really a game about supremacy in europe and if that is your goal then you are willing to take high gambles and high risks and. to me just clear that the. first moves were coming from the west or that in the end it's an attempt to solidify western europe and unified behind. the u.s. position and that's a geo political and geo strategic game and it's beyond economics in many ways since

many recruits spec's. day is saying that john kerry's simming attempts to shift some of the blame. for what's going on in ukraine on. a well basically impacts the talks well i would hope for a rift because that would help the you to realize that it has its own position in the past years especially months i've also i was really. quite. surprised and also negatively surprised that basically the you followed pretty much everything that was initiated the free trade talks the sanctions other things that i think it's about time that your leaders think about what's in the interest of europe really and it's about time we stop that process. line from germany i missed don't see it thank you very much indeed for sharing your perspective with us we appreciate. made his deputy chief says the

alliance is now compels three of you russia as an opponent not a partner that looks also mulling whether to boost his forces in eastern europe to counter what it sees as moscow's aggression in ukraine. reports a top nato official says the alliance now sees russia as an enemy alexander vershbow the deputy secretary general of nato who also served as the us ambassador to russia two years ago was quoted as saying clearly the russians have declared nato was an adversary so we have to begin to view russia no longer as a partner but as more of an adversary than a partner is true that russia over the last couple of decades has expressed indignation over needles broken promises over nato expansion to wash of borders for years moscow had felt cheated because the us in one nine hundred ninety promised not to expend need opened since then did it twelve eastern european nations to the alliance but despite this moscow it still cooperated with nato on

a number of global importance like ghana stand up trafficking nonproliferation in a pro medo suspended all practical civilian and military cooperation with russia although russia has maintained its diplomatic mission to nato alexander but went on to say that nato is considering the deployment of substantial numbers of combat forces. either permanently or on patient bases other nato officials talked about sending more fighter jets for member states this will mean more military spending we remember the u.s. president call on europeans to chip in and to spend more on nato and this could also mean more tensions because with the military buildup may come of the buildup of fear. and earlier we spoke to the former pentagon official michael maloof he believes alexander comments may not reflect how the wider nato family views its relations with russia was an unfortunate statement because it basically draws

a picture of russia. and europe has been adversaries when there's a tremendous trade going on between russia and europe so i think that there's more room among the nato countries probably more mature level headed people particularly in europe who see the need to work with russia rather than to treat it as an adversary or an enemy search the you are spend nearly seven billion dollars as part of its efforts to tackle drug production in afghanistan but opium production is still at a record high cooperation between moscow and washington serves to put some pressure on the illegal trade across the globe but the amount of money pounds directly into the country had little effect on the level of drugs flowing out europe russia and the us are on the receiving end of the drug trade let's now take a look at some of the figures afghanistan is responsible for more than ninety

percent of the world's opium production heroin production has also soared and is now forty times higher since nato invaded iraq in two thousand and one over one million drug addicts worldwide are estimated to have died in the past decade as a result meanwhile be an estimate that afghanistan's total annual earnings from opium and heroin is more than three billion dollars on ceaselessly come from the reports now on the toll that drug addiction is taking on afghan society. there. are a lot of feel ravaged by drugs with no help in sight this is the face of addiction in afghanistan one of many. beneath the bridge in the center of kabul a foul smelling sewer now school grades as a river and on its banks among the refuse. men with haunted oz and hollow stares. every day there are more they huddle in the

shadows but there's no need to hide the police don't bother coming here. the supply is cheap there's heroin opium too and the tools to consume them. last year again is down recorded its largest opium harvest ever and the scene behind me tell the story of just how devastating that's been for the people here the men that gather here are part of a growing addiction epidemic according to the united nations more than a million afghans are addicted to heroin and opium out of a population of some thirty million people which makes up ghana's than not just the world's top exporter of the drugs but one of its top consumers to them and that's despite billions of dollars and more than a decade of western efforts to curb narcotics here is going to study i don't know where the money go there's no help. for us to use this. will force to get it they want you this it is official treatment clinics are struggling to cope. co.

dot gov is the last of the kind color not more than ten percent but ninety percent without any sense. that with increasing. intriguing like that that is intrinsic like a person like this a little is good luck. which makes these men some of the lucky few they're getting help it may not be a traditional facility but it's a place to call home for up to twenty addicts at a time there's no medication just group therapy but they say the treatment works this woman they call mother harder we was haunted by her brother struggle with heroin appalled at the growing number of addicts and the lack of help so she stepped in she opened the treatment center and later this restaurant it pays for

the expenses and gives the addicts a place to work but in this traditional society it's cost her more than money. my husband didn't approve of this and left me i haven't been able to see my children suzanne i've been threatened and even beaten here but missing my children has been hardest for now this is family i love the. left back at the clinic checks in with the addicts some turn to heroin as refugees in iran or pakistan others were driven to drugs by economic despair when you have no work no opportunity it's like death you cannot be productive so you take drugs to escape this former policeman began smoking opium after losing his leg to a landmine an addict for twelve years thanks to his clinic cleaned for almost one. i made a decision to change my life around i tried many times before but now i have support

. it's a small victory but afghanistan's battle with drugs is likely to rage on. kabul. malnutrition. violent. drug addiction. and she cures. corruption. what are the values you. reports on afghan realities this is an incredibly. undermined breaking news story at least to you cranium troops on one sole defense fighter have been killed after a key of launching military assault on the eastern city of slovyansk which is currently held by un to government protesters this issue in the dunny as creature

has a population of just over one hundred thousand blockaded with people unable to evacuate the area and our correspondent in the city also reports that people have been told to leave these trees immediately however unarmed locals have been seen trying to prevent on the hardware from advancing by simply standing in the way the operation which kicked off a door came from both round and there by the helicopters were sent into this place of a slug that's the two were gunned down by the self-defense forces the ukrainian army decided to hold their air raids following the clashes who bring you all down dates and reaction to keep them in and about half an hour. up next to say fish have nothing to loose would they need a dutch policy for freedom.

jeffrey chapman from kansas is going on trial for murder but he is very afraid of jury prejudice is it because the jury is full of racists or has some sort of vested interest in seeing him get locked away no it is because he is a giant tattoo on his neck of the word murder written backwards wiser and backwards so he could read it in the mirror. nowadays we live in a total culture of almost complete and total myth so naturally chapman wants to leave jail on a special trip to a tattoo parlor to get the ugly ink changed or moved yet because he did something stupid his appearance now it is the obligation of the government to help him fix the problem he created often on these opinion pieces i am very critical of the government but this time the man is totally right you can't just take everyone on special trips across town so they can look good for their trial it isn't the state's fault that he has the word murder on his neck the prosecutors even said

that chapman that it would be ok if he covered it up with something like a stylish curve for dapper turtleneck sweater it is not the job of the government to help you get rid of your very stupid and very incriminating to a fascist my opinion. of the middle east peace this. news is proud of this tremendous. the peaceful thoughts and prayers to chart the best. way you can i mean is just going to be looking to. reduce whole. peace process with clocks. right to go.

welcome to go on sophie shevardnadze as brussels brings in more sanctions against mosco over the crisis in ukraine but it was actually being done to sell the chaos as a bloc ready to take responsibility for the country gripped by civil unrest. an outspoken dutch politician as a guest of the program today. as these you politicians cheer on a new government in kiev calls for european integration back home growing

frustrated with the you with weeks to go to the european elections anti e.u. forces us to make a strong showing. what's behind the euro skepticism and what does it mean for the future of the european union. character older stature politician leader of the party for freedom it's great to have you here on our show so we're going to just start and go ahead with your crane out there blame game going on over ukraine the u.s. and europe are pointing fingers at russia while also says it's too west that is to blame what do you think is responsible. well you know i think what the u.p. union did it was very irresponsible because in the family last year they promised. they would have some kind of pretty exceptional treaty and maybe in the future become a member of the european union and we all know that this was a very delicate balance in the ukraine with fifty percent looking at the source those russia fifty percent of the population looking worse with those three o p

union so i think it was very irresponsible what the european union did they should have to get out of it on the other hand i must also say that ukrainian still is even though europe made a big mistake there it is an autonomous sovereign country i should also believe that not only the european union have stayed out of its but also russia should really not into feel the best thing to do is to deescalate by taking the russian minority and eastern ukraine seriously give them rights and make them really feel as important as the other half of the ukraine and then i hope also russia will be able to retract not interfere as well but very talk about discoloration you mentioned that he was responsible partially for what's going on right now the result that we have which is a country on the brink of a civil war that why do you think it was so supportive in the beginning do you think it lack the understanding of the complexity of the situation on the ground.

well you know unfortunately the european union and that's very on the ice wants to xpand it wants to have all the euro files and brussels wants to have more more and more members and they forget that it's not only about themselves everybody even a child could see that the ukraine is was not a come through and ninety nine percent of the people supported the idea by joining the european union half of the country is against it was more and is more pro russia so i believe that the european union. indeed played a very irresponsible role should have kept out of it i saw even european politicians member of parliament even dutch members of parliament were standing on the square in kiev. saying saying the wrong the wrong things making the people believe that they would have all the support of the west and ignoring the fact that

it was not easy situation in the real queen itself so europe was very irresponsible but i also have to be honest it still is a sovereign country so also believe that russia should respect that the suffering t. off the ukraine and should have stayed out of the country and i hope that without the europe and the fearing and without russian interfering things can still deescalate now without sanctions but with common sense. i think one of the keys of the solution is to take the russian minority in the east of the ukraine take them seriously european union to date should take two steps back and also russia should do the same and i hope that will be peaceful outcome that way you're talking about discoloration and staying out of ukraine's affairs say do you think that you shouldn't help ukraine right now in its current mass. well you know the european union is responsible for the mess like i said when they said last november they

promised the ukraine some kind of pre exception treaty is kind of membership this was very irresponsible and i believe you are of a small thinking about itself and expanding its its territory really was thinking about the whole of the ukraine let alone the stability in that region and the stability in that region is not served by russia on the one hand and the european union all nato on the other hand i mean it's only getting more attention so it's very irresponsible what europe did what i would hope once again is that it would deescalate that russia would they could do steps back that the european union would take a few steps back and that if we take if the ukrainian federal government takes the rights of the russian minorities seriously then i hope that all boss will be able to deescalate in a peaceful way that is i think where we all will benefit from the most are there a lot of politicians in here of that share here point of view i mean taking the blame partially for what's going on you're creating also trying to deescalate

situation ukraine. yes i think there are more i mean there is a gap really between the vox populated popular voice and will the governments say i mean once again i'm not only blaming the european union member i mean both russia and the european union but i have to be honest there would be a union made a terrible move and the beginning of and november last year they at least partially stopped that a lot of the troubles and that analysis. is shared by more parties in the european union for sure but now the here is introducing yet more sanctions against russia are there cheering anything at all in your opinion. well you know i am not the biggest believer in sanctions it's not good for anybody it's not good for europe it's not good for russia so it's not good for ukraine so i think we should try to once again deescalate i mean if if the russian army would and would invade

ukraine which i believe would be a terrible mistake then of course you could talk about sanctions but no sanctions could be even counterproductive at least if you make forward more economical sanctions so i'm i think that europe should also take part of the blame because they made big mistakes but also russia should say part of the part of the blame they also made mistakes and if the boss agree on that and focus on the ukraine and also once again take the russian minority which is an enormous minority in eastern ukraine take them seriously give them rights give them serious rights then i hope that more sanctions will be not only counterproductive but will all the also be unnecessary i hope it's not too late but we should try at least right but like you said russia has been invaded ukraine yet so as a right now what kind of fact are european politicians hoping for with the

sanctions in the netherlands there is a majority i have to say of the bodies that support the dutch government and support the point of view of the european union my party might be different once again we are not only blaming russia but we also looking at the european union and we believe that only to have more sanctions is counterproductive for your rights even though what happened in the crim crimean region was not that we supported what russia did that but russia has not invaded eastern ukraine yet and i hope they won't and in order to do that sanctions i believe today council productive at least what the americans what others want to do is just to step up the sanctions to have more sanctions to pay them i don't they. really think that's will help i think to deescalate the war thought will help and threatening with sanctions and other things either way most of the time really has no positive effect now the netherlands is either as large as gas producer and take cover for any loss of

russian gas imports to hear up. well you know we have certainly gas in the netherlands with which i believe should be first used for the netherlands itself which is very logic of course it's our gas i believe we should use it but we also of course export it and sell it and that is also for our economy a good thing and i don't know if we could step up to the level that russia is providing now to parts of certainly europe and eastern europe. but once again i hope it will not come to that that far that the situation will escalate i hope it will be escalate more sessions to day so to me more economic sanctions today would not only be bad for russia would also be bad for the european union for our part of europe and i think this is something that we should not want today is there just isn't cold war style relations between the u.s. and russia so is the e.u.

ready to follow us it. well i hope that's not the case i hope that we will still have good relations with russia as we do with the united states on myself and very much in favor i'm a transatlantic system more than. a fan of the european union so i cherish the role that even the dutch half within nato and i subscribe to a very good relations with the united states of america but i also believe we should have good relations with russia russia is a very important. part of the world in a very large and strong country and of course we can disagree on things we can disagree on many things with russia or with the united states with many other parts of the world but another cold war is something i believe that it will be very bad thing that nobody is waiting for that we'll have bath results lonely politically

but also economically with chaff we'll have more tensions all over the border between nato and e.c. europe or russia so i hope really and i'm not naive but i hope that we can prevent another cold war in europe all right well we're going to take a short break now we'll be back with that when titian get your elders to talk about the upcoming caravan actions and the rise of heroes skepticism stay with us.

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now i. want to get. like. ok we will stand for europe the war to europe the traditional europe for the free nations europe but. we should be arresting all those terrorists in kiev instead all of the presidential candidates the military junta the nazis who gave orders to kill their own people just because their culture and their views are different. from. what we will slavs we have to live in peace with brothers we shouldn't fight each

other one people will bring all this. they were back with garrick welder's stach politician leader of the party for freedom great to have you back so i want to talk about the rising cura skepticism prominent us politician and author pat buchanan i'm sure you know who he is he recently said that nationalism is on the rise while globalization is a thing of the past to share his point of view. yes i think it does but i call it myself but the truth is a i'm a bit through it i believe we should be all patriots i believe a lot of russians are patriots as well and we should be proud of our own country

and you know what's happened in the last decades is that our national sovereignty in the european union collapsed because there came a european superstate of all european elections that nobody in holland or in belgium or the united kingdom nobody not only knows them but nobody voted for them and they are now of almost all the law making process in our own country so we lost our identity we lost our national sovereignty to the european union an institution that really a lot of people in the west don't like so much anymore i have nothing against europe but i have a lot against the european union as an organization and what we want we want to regain control over our own borders over a own money over our own budget all rise that the rights that we have given to the bureaucrats in brussels and we all the deck i mean everybody knows that spanish people of different than swedish people my own dutch people are not the same

a sport yuki's and it's a good thing there is not a european people it doesn't exist i mean several countries exist so i believe we should cooperate in an economical way with the internal markets and treat with one another everybody can benefit from that that we should stop with the political project call to european union because that's a big failure to be honest but you're not the only one actually voicing this concern there is france that's being actually way worried about the immigration problems so understating its borders also britain is sounding alarm do you think it's something that's going to pass or is it something that's actually going to ask a lady into something bigger. well it's not going to pass i mean let's be honest all the europhiles oldest those pro european bought these they ignore to problem they say that it's ridiculous and they day ignore it and they they will not act on it and you see that parties like mine but also in the united kingdom and france we

will probably if not win the elections in the end of may for the european parliament we will be one number one the number two on the national election so millions of people a year opened that's why the elections in may so historical for euro because for the first time millions of people will cast their vote against the european union people who want less european union will be a control of their own money of their own budgets of their own borroughs of the whole lawmaking and those spot these and that's another reason why the elections will be crucial and historic will also hopefully be able to work together in the opium palm and to sound a different voice to cost the different volt in the european parliament and that will not only have an enormous effect on the european politics but also on the national politics a lot of things will change people are fed up that big fat bureaucrats in brussels whom nobody elected. doing the most crazy things that are not good for our country

let me give you one example we have in my country in the netherlands but in many other western european countries we have had the raising of texas we have had austerity programs of billions of euros and we send that money to greece to cyprus to portugal to we caught you being come to ace and at the same time people in holland they had less money in the book because we send that money abroad and people are fed up with that we want what seven hundred thousand unemployed people in the netherlands we don't want more immigrants from other countries to come here we want to jobs to be there for our own people like i think it's very logic as well also like once they cannot make gross picks out wanky your skepticism we can. listen i believe that for instance i want my country to leave the european union i would like us to be a second switzerland you know the country of switzerland switzerland is in the

heart of europe but is not a member of the european union and if we could still have access to the until market without being a member of the european union i think we commissioned the reports by independent bureau and it showed that only the netherlands would have a ten percent more economical growth people would have more money in their pockets there would be more jobs in the netherlands if the hollande would leave the european union still we could be good trade with the other countries of the european union but we could also have more free trade agreements with other parts of europe rather is more economical growth and the euro today look at asia look at latin america look at africa there is more economical growth and that's region than in europe itself and for instance switzerland switzerland already has for a few years a free trade agreement with japan that science free trade agreement with china last

year your rope has neither one of them europe is still fighting between one another should we have a trade agreement with japan and china and all of which conditions so you are far more flexible our society european union and like switzerland very strong economical country we can deal better economically and we are in charge of our own country again when it comes to national sovereignty so yes we would like to leave the european union and be stronger as a national country so are you saying that european union has exhausted itself in its current form because from what i remember netherlands was actually a pretty poor country like twenty thirty years ago and community has helped to become very stable and very rich. you know listen when europe started european union started in the fifty's you know nine hundred fifty seven it started in a good way and i wish it should have stayed like that because it started with economical corporation and i believe in economical cooperation i believe in three

traits everybody every country can benefit from trading with one another but then after the fifty's in the sixty's the seventy's the eighty's and later it became a political project instead of an economical corporation a free trade it changed into a kind of european superstate where politicians try to make foreign policy you will see you see what happened in the ukraine what a mess they made about it they try with one point one currency with the eurozone they try to be stronger economically and it's also this us though the western countries the north of bother if you obeyed for the solid of bought a few of our economy did not grow in the last year the netherlands had more economical growth before we entered to euro zone then after we were part of the euro zone and europe did umbrella bring peace either once again the example at the ukraine where they make made a big mess of it but also in the form of a was

a yugoslavia look at bosnia europe did nothing as world autos like black america that came to help so europe was not good for our sovereignty was not good for our economy is bad for foreign policy so i believe we can be far better off outside the eurozone and outside the european union and more and more not a majority today but more and more people in any european country share this view so i really believe that the elections later in a month's time will be historic in our continent europe that the years skeptic movement is fragmented in every here a skeptic party has different goals can you form a single block in the european parliament. well i really hope so and i'm i'm a positive guy so i really hope that we will be able to do so and look at the other groups and european parliament. bodies working together that have small differences

then we have look at the christian democrats in holland the christian democrats or the party the christian democrats from. the disconsolate from germany they work together with the party of mr bellows kone and i've nothing against that but they have they have far more differences than we have with so many other parties so i believe that it's our responsibility to try to work together i'm going for them and that we can work together we should overstep our differences and hey i'm not looking for a merging of the parties i don't want us to get together in one party i just want to cooperate in the political fraction in a political group in the european parliament i believe that in any institution certainly one that claims to be democratic you need a balance of power you need countervailing powers you need only not only europhiles but you also need to you were skeptical about this and where the party of mrs le pen the party of mr farris ukip the party off in austria the f.b.i.

and sweden we have all one thing in common we will have more powers through all national capital since that of brussels we want must suffer and t. and we want to be stronger economically and we want to have our own foreign policy and not a foreign policy dictated by commission us whether it's in the ukraine or anything else that we have not the elect it's crazy that we have commissioned us in charge that nobody elected in the netherlands i mean it's like it could it does almost we should get it back our powers and i believe that we will be able to work together but i can only prove it of course after the election not today but here's the other thing and moderate stance will most probably still. dominate the polls so won't they anti-air threat encourage them to or closer to resist your influence. you know they are pro european already afraid they are getting nervous d.c. that we are getting popular day by day that millions of europeans will fold against

the europhiles and well perhaps you remember years ago we had a referendum in france and in the netherlands on an island about the european constitution that then came into effect and while they try to make scare people make them afraid they said well without the european union you will lose your job we will get a wall the lights will go out we have big problems and nothing of that happens in reality and people not fooled by their threats anymore so i think we should work together i think we should we will not bring them any closer than they are today it's one bunch whether you are in the opium bollman today a liberal or christian democrats or a social democrat it's all the same they all want more money more brussels more fall policy more problems more. transfer of the rides from the national states

to brussels and there is now a group of politicians in the group of these millions of european citizens who want something else and whatever they do they will not be able to change it it's like a room being closed for decades and now somebody opens the window and a fresh wind is entering the window which is very good for the atmosphere in that room and they will not be able to change the course of history i promise you that all right mr willis it was great talking to you were talking to garrett welder's dutch politician leader of the party for freedom we're talking about whether it be you should help ukraine in its current mass and also what's in store for the your opinion after they snail actions in european parliament. that's it for this edition of said next time.

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at least three people are killed as a relaunches its crackdown on ukraine's east where people are death defying the interim government and demanding greater autonomy for their region. moscow calls for kiev to be held accountable for using its army against civilians while the e.u. calls for these self-defense forces to lay down their arms. and i'm going to lovell heads to washington to discuss further sanctions over russia over ukraine with germany's big business is strongly opposing that we're and.

this is also international cummings who live from moscow hello and welcome to the program. was started with live pictures coming from my d.s.l. in ukraine's black sea crowes were clashes are taking place between right sector actually for autonomy supporters gunfire has been reported as members of their rival groups came face to face in the center of the police are now on the scene the atmosphere is said to be tens with people pulling out of the pavement and throwing the stones at each other we'll be monitoring this developing story throughout the day today and we'll keep you up to date. meanwhile at least two ukrainian troops and one cell defense fighter have been killed after a key you know inch to military assault on the eastern city of slavyansk which is held by anti-government protesters the city is and they don't hit has a population of just over one hundred thousand and it's now blockaded with people

unable to evacuate the area. as you can see crowds of desperate on armed locals have been trying to prevent ukraine's military hardware from advancing by simply standing in the way but the troops didn't seem all that concerned the operation which kicked off a storm came from both ground and air fighter helicopters were sent to rove the scholars are but two were gunned down by the self-defense forces the ukrainian army decided to hold their air raids following the clashes. very ground and injured pilot was taken to hospital by the self-defense forces this apparently is footage of him after his helicopter hit the ground the man helping him to save she seemed to be antic iraq so it's one of the self defense fighters says the pilot was abandoned. when the second helicopter was shot down

we wanted to get closer but decided to save the first pilot he was abandoned by his own people they came up to him and took away his gun actually his across ukraine southeast have been demanding a referendum to split from kiev from mons they've also been saying they won't be right so the russian speaking ukrainians to be respected and they fear the extremists threat within the interim government meanwhile an armed unit of people dressed in the uniform of the new north your right sector has reportedly landed just outside slovyansk. they own the group has been involved in a tussle ukrainians in the east allowed along with the army whether the government doesn't have control over the radicals they have already come out against gives new room is several times despite helping them to power during the bonnet through february or visit his policy there are polls there once again ready for action against their fellow countrymen. we are hearing reports that members

of the right seek to have arrived via helicopter we're being told they're heavily armed and that they have the uniforms of the right sector so that is how they are being easily identified as you can well imagine tensions are running high it's taken us about four hours to actually enter the town it is completely closed off you have barricades and checkpoints at every single entrance and exit at the same time this is a town that is in lockdown the ukrainian military has completely surrounded it we're hearing from the ukrainian defense ministry that two of its pilots have been killed there were something between two and four helicopters that were downed earlier this morning we haven't been able to verify the numbers talking to the self defense units they say that one of their members has been killed at the same time we're also hearing from the ukrainian authorities that at least ten checkpoints have been captured now protesters have been building barricades around them they've been reinforcing them with sandbags at the same time locals of those town have been

coming forward to offer themselves as human shields trying to build more barricades and away to the city center and hold the attackers is long as possible we are defending our city we don't want to let these bloody prevaricators come in we want an end to this crime against humanity in the southeast for how long do we have to be afraid children and the elderly the old people the veterans who are ready to take their crutches and fight for their children but for now the city center is calm we're hearing shooting from the periphery this is a city where this the situation is extremely to. people are preparing for a further onslaught by the ukrainian army. and police keeping you up to date with what's happening in slovyansk her latest tweets address self-defense units urging people to take shelter in a bar and to dissipate over yet another time for her twitter feed for the latest updates on the military operation. and let's not bring in the course key political

scientist at the european central geopolitical analysis live from also. discourse welcome to r.c. so these sounds it's concerned with the military operation in the east of the country but at the same moment they're asking self-defense units to lay down arms so what about what about helicopters and tanks against civilian population is it now justified. well it's quite unbelievable i mean the level of double standards of some european union officials and politicians if you look at other cases when the equipment and military forces are used against the civilian protests all over the world european union stands in the events of human rights and events in defiance of in support of peaceful resolution of any of that in this particle our case and that level of double standards the level of the

support of the key fishel figures of european union for the armory come version of . events in eastern ukraine is too obvious and i guess. fortunately there will be more and more european politicians during the european parliament campaign we already have seen several of them which will not shirk this point of view which is. like once more to stress which is quite hypocritical i write but just to remind everyone january and february at present unocal that you refrained from our calling and meanwhile the protests in kiev were much more violent than those where we've missing here now in in these. he was condemned for excess excessive use of force where is the logic here. that's really that's really unbelievable if you compare our. opinions and appeals

of european union belief. you have bills addressed to then president. and their reaction of european union when it comes to the military suppression of protest of a process which we have to say it's a kind of peaceful protest because no one has been killed i mean when it comes to. all. members of the special forces view of ukrainian special forces they were kept they were. detained and kept by the. separatist movement but they were not killed no one of them was harmed so in this particle our case this excessive use of force is something we can hardly explain and we can explain it. when we look at the events we have taken place in the. last the

last week or two weeks when we had a visit and all this will be that of mr john brennan that chief of cia to kiev and probably it was the american advisers. led you crying out. from kiev to stop the military operation here is that it will work as this so we have to ask several members of american political lights what they want to achieve now because what they are actually achieving now by suppressing militarily suppressing goals of the proposed in the southeast of ukraine particularly as loving as. they will. in this situation in a way it's there will be no more any possibility even the slightest possibility for a united ukraine because after. after the participation of right sector and other extremists in this military activity is there. no one can talk about peaceful.

and of ukraine as a one state as it used to be before a much harish discourse keep political scientists at european center job it is go analysis mr discourse thank you very much indeed for sharing your views with us thank you. previously made attempts to be told reproach us and brings east by sending the army to operations took place last month with were met with severe resistance from the locals and some of the troops and times that were sent ended up signing along with the ox a bit as soon as the rest of the region ukraine's forces are calling on self-defense units in sloviansk to surrender and lay down their weapons promising them safety but we had a chance to speak to local people and some of them say that rather take up arms and

give it to interim government. i used to be in the military but i've never raised arms against civilians but i gave up the cry owed democracy democracy we live in democratic country but in reality explain to me where is it we don't even have the right to speak out they don't care about the south east they decided to work things out without us to choose a president without us. with our set you up for over we're standing for the right cause and you don't want to fight anyone we simply want to live in a civilised state where everyone's rights are respected and we don't want to keep contact to rule yet though you know covies did not send forces to my don square but the send this and they did it quietly at four in the morning just like fascists surely you're not going to move an age for a bit here let the tanks crush me but i won't move. my home base here my family my friends and their children here why should i leave my city because of them i didn't

start a war with the it's they who said be here see what you're saying you put on what you've heard it's just impossible to live like this anymore tell me what country is sending armed forces against its own people we have people being killed here public transport snot working for it is not making its way into the city oh mothers are sitting and trembling and are asking for help. and now back to live pictures coming from my d.s.l. new craze black seacoast what clashes a taking place between right sector x. of its on the pro autonomy supporters gunfire has been reported as members of the rival groups came face to face in the center of the city police are now on the scene doubtless phase said to be tens with people pulling out of the pavements and throwing the starter's at each other will be monitoring this developing story throughout the day and will keep you up to date looks. like it was.

an official break will bring out on a says on the u.s. and european sanctions against russia stay with us for the. crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want.

this is also international welcomed by the german chancellor angela merkel was visiting washington for the first time says they revelations that the uighurs had been listening to have fallen conversations which at the time she labeled completely unacceptable as unfortunate revelations included a league conversation between u.s. diplomats victoria nuland and the american ambassador to ukraine where she didn't

hold back in dismissing the merkel said to discuss the free trade agreement between europe and the u.s. the spine of brussels concerns about the standard of some american products the n.s.a. spying is expected to be addressed as well as there's still been no clear resolution of this scandal or that as angle a merkel is coming under pressure from major drug companies who don't own more sanctions against russia over the ukrainian crisis speech to all of our reports. well an article in the wall street journal suggests very strongly that angle america has gone to d.c. with a very clear message from german industry and that message is no more economic sanctions against russia the real big hitters in the german corporate world the likes of b.s.f. the chemicals giant siemens the engineering group forks walk in id doused deutsche bank they've all voiced concerns over potential sanctions further sanctions against

russia we've seen public statements from some of the the real big cases in the german corporate world all of the saying that they diplomatic route must be the only route to take in to try and find a solution to what's going on in ukraine and that that the business world should be allowed to go about its own business and not suffer at the hands of this when you look at the numbers you can see why they are concerned over six thousand german companies have involvement in russia over three hundred thousand jobs here in germany alone rely directly on that trade on trade partnership with russia that would be a lot of jobs to be put at risk should further sanctions be put into play so it puts anglo american in a difficult position when she goes to talk to barack obama both have backed sanctions in the past but they are now looking like they both want different kinds of sanctions to be put in place but the situation over sanctions isn't the only thing that they're going to be looking at and have a listen to my report right now to find out what else is going to be on the table

it's sent to be a meeting between two of the world's most powerful leaders but there are more than rumblings that the balance of power in the relationship is very one sided account then doesn't stand up against the hey this is based in dependency through the u.s. denied spine and merkel cell phone ben admitted it no it just continues because of mamma says were reserved the right to collect information i just see angola merkel going to the us to pick up new instructions. the chancellor has come in for review could home for not pushing to allow edward snowden to give testimony at an investigation into n.s.a. activity in person her critics saying that she's looking to protect the image of a u.s. partners mrs merkel's visit won't just be watched closely in germany many in europe are angry that no leader really stood up to the actions of the u.s. in the aftermath of snowden's revelations. trid is set to play a major role in the talks negotiations are still ongoing over the transatlantic

trade and investment partnership or ti tip which could see an easing of current tight restrictions on the surface this could see both the e.u. and us profit but it won't cost to consumers genetically modified food home and treated beef and we must chicken could end up like this in germany ninety six percent of people think that e.u. standards on environmental protection are better than the u.s. on car safety the figures show ninety one percent in favor of the e.u. and on data protection eighty five percent didn't think the u.s. standards were up to the job more transparency is needed in t. tip talks say those standing against mrs merkel's party in upcoming e.u. elections. the whole negotiations are taking place behind closed doors amongst a small number of people we must be vigilant when this type of deal is done with third world nations there are often attempts to undermine the legal system of that

land we will not accept this while germany and the united states remain the firmest of friends on the international stage when i'm going to medical sits down for talks with barack obama it looks likely that there will be some issues they certainly don't see eye to eye on peter oliver r.t. . and we asked michael hansen economics professor began about stove missouri if you things the balance positional sanctions will change. the germans are very clear that they are not going to pursue sanctions that hurt german industry that would be the straw that broke the camel's back and there is some discussion in germany about do we want to really remain part of nato if we don't have a voice in it do we really want to sacrifice german industry so that american industry can move in and take over the market that the german industry has this is an american market grabbing opportunity from germany and you can be sure that

within merkel's own christian democratic party there is a big argument over whether germany should make the sacrifice of its industry for american industry just because america says. the u.s. has plans nearly seven billion dollars as part of its efforts to tackle drug production and afghanistan but don't be in production still and have very record high corporation between moscow and washington so support some pressure on the illegal. but the amount of money pumped directly into the country had little effect on the level of drugs flow out europe russia and the us all on the receiving end of the drug trade that's now take a look at some of the figures i'm gonna stand as responsible for more than ninety percent of it whiles opium production heroin production has also soared and is now four times higher since nacer invaded back in two thousand and one over one million drug addicts worldwide are estimated to have died in the past decade as

a result meanwhile the un estimates that afghanistan's total annual earnings from opium and heroin is more than three billion dollars. reports now on the toll the drug addiction is taking on afghan society. local ravaged by drugs with no help in sight this is the face of addiction in afghanistan one of many. beneath the bridge in the center of kabul a foul smelling sue were not school grades as a river and on its banks and on the refuse. men with haunted eyes and hollow stares. every day there are more they huddle in the shadows but there's no need to hide the police don't bother coming here. the supply is cheap there's heroin opium too and the tools to consume them.

last year afghanistan recorded its largest opium harvest ever and the scene behind me told a story of just how devastating that's been for the people here the men that have gathered here are part of a girls only addiction epidemic according to the united nations more than a million afghans are addicted to heroin and opium out of a population of some thirty million people which makes up ghana stand not just the world's top exporter of the drugs but one of its top consumers to italy and doubts despite billions of dollars and more than a dead. kate of western efforts to curb narcotics here is going to study i don't know one of the when you go there's no help they can facilitate for us to use this potential the possible first what if they want you know this it is official treatment clinics are struggling to cope we cover. drug users or treat god god is one of the last of the kind of our not more than ten percent but ninety percent without any sense and we are way off

that with increasing. increasing like that that is increasing like i don't it person like this they live what is going like that. which makes these men some of the lucky few they're getting help it may not be a traditional facility but it's a place to call home for up to twenty addicts at a time there's no medication just group therapy but they say the treatment works this woman they call mother layla harder we was haunted by her brother struggle with heroin appalled at the growing number of addicts and the lack of help so she stepped in she opened the treatment center and later this restaurant it pays for the expenses and gives the addicts a place to work but in this traditional society it's cost her more than money. my husband didn't approve of this and left me i haven't been able to see my children since then i've been threatened and even beaten here but missing my children has

been hardest for now this is family i love the. left back at the clinic checks in with the addicts some turn to heroin as refugees in iran or pakistan others were driven to drugs by economic despair when you have no welcome no opportunity it's like death you cannot be productive so you take drugs to escape. this former policeman began smoking opium after losing his leg to a landmine an addict for twelve years thanks to a clinic clean for almost one. i made a decision to change my life around i tried many times before but now i have support. it's a small victory but afghanistan's battle with drugs is likely to rage on. r.t.e. kabul. malnutrition. violent. drug

addiction. and she cures. a rupture. what are the values you. see company reports on afghan realities this is an incredibly dangerous. and the reminder of our breaking news story at least two ukrainian troops and one soldier friends find to have been killed after a key of launched a military assault on the eastern city of slovyansk which is currently held by anti-government protesters the city in the dunny it's creature and has a population of just over one hundred thousand and it's now blockaded with people unable to evacuate steria and our correspondent in the city also reports that people have been told student leave the streets immediately however are known blow calls have been seen trying to prevent army hardware from advancing by simply

standing in the way the operation which kicks off a door came from both ground and air fighter helicopters were sent into the skies over slovyansk the two were gunned down by the self-defense forces the ukrainian army decided to hold the air raid for them because it's. bad to live pictures right now coming from i.d.'s on ukraine's black sea crowes clashes are taking place pro unity and crowds one of his supporters and gunfire has been reported as members of the wyvil groups came face to face in the center of the city for the funds are said to have been joined by members of the far right organization police are now on the scene must be said to be turns with people pulling up the pavements and throwing the stars at each other but we're monitoring this debate. and sorry surrounded dad and will keep you.

up next it's called still with hospital about stay with us and. jeffrey chapman from kansas is going on trial for murder but he is very afraid of jury prejudice is it because the jury is full of racists or has some sort of vested interest in seeing him get locked away no it is because he is a giant tattoo on his neck of the word murder written backwards wiser and backwards so he could read it in the mirror. nowadays we live in a total culture of almost complete entitlement so naturally chapman wants to leave jail on a special trip to a tattoo parlor to get the ugly ink changed or moved yet because he did something

stupid his appearance now it is the obligation of the government to help him fix the problem he created often on these opinion pieces i am very critical of the government but this time the man is totally right you can't just take everyone on special trips across town so they can look good for their trial it isn't the state's fault that he has the word murder on his neck the prosecutors even said that chapman that it would be ok if he covered it up with something like a stylish curve for dapper turtleneck sweater it is not the job of the government to help you get rid of your very stupid and very incriminating debt to a fascist my opinion. dramas that can be ignored. stories others who refuse to notice. faces changed the world lights now.

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me if i ever feel ready to join the movement then well they. believe. it is a. glowing welcome the growth all things are considered i'm people of the arab spring but never was almost four years on it would appear that people's revolutions in the middle east have actually only empowered the forces of reaction and resulted in extreme repression and violence is the middle east doomed to be ruled by western backed dictators.

to cross-talk the arab spring i'm joined by my guest the bill ramadan the in london she is a journalist and commentator on arab affairs also in london we have toby cadman he is an international criminal lawyer and serves on the board of the syrian commission for justice and accountability and in norman we cross to joshua landis he is director of the center of middle east studies at the university of oklahoma crosstalk rules in fact and you can jump in anytime you want to go to you first in london you wrote an article recently egypt comes full circle the end of the arab spring why did you write it and what isn't me. well i've been following events in egypt for some time i joined a group of lawyers in november that was looking at documenting crimes that occurred during the recent military coup and then following the the targeting of the muslim brotherhood and their supporters we saw a court sentenced five hundred twenty nine people to death many of them in absentia

and i as an international lawyer i found the whole process i'm so offensive that i thought that writing about nobility and we should we still used to term arab spring or arab awakening is that appropriate anymore because if we go across the entire region if there is a lot of tears to say the least. well of course the term arab spring first start was coined by western journalists to describe the did spectacular scale of movements of protests that swept across the middle east and north africa three years ago now and also to describe the domino effect of those protests effectively affecting one country are after the other in the region and egypt specifically even though the arab spring the so-called arab spring started in tunisia. following effectively the humiliation of a fruit seller by a police woman a vigilante effectively who led this fruit seller to set himself on fire but that

self immolation was in fact the expression of frustration at the the series of problems affecting the arab world not least of all and first and foremost you know autocratic rule for decades often in many countries but also endemic corruption lack of opportunity social and economic opportunities and you know the lack of fundamental human rights and egypt has effectively become the focal point the square has become the focal point of the you know hope and optimism but it also has become the country which sums up both disick sess of the arab spring it was swift mubarak was removed in eighteen days and also captures now the failure of the arab spring with effectively the return of a military strongman backed by a corrupt judiciary and indeed a murderous army but it has to be said that the arab spring these are not going

process it by no means ending it. and it's still going on you know crucially in countries like syria where the civil war is still very you know when it very much lately we go to trial and let me go to joshua judge would you like still live picture america spring arab awakening is it doesn't. resonate with you now considering what we've seen particularly in egypt and i guess also as an available in and out in syria. well it doesn't really anymore and the below is absolutely right the west gave it the name of arab spring because the west looked at this through the prism of democracy and it and tried to explain what broke out from tunisia through the rest of the arab world in terms of a desire for dignity and democracy and of course that wasn't a very important part but there was a much larger story which is the economic pressures that nebula pointed out and the growing pains of national definition of coming out of dynastic

empire the ottoman empire and trying to develop some kind of national integrity where the nation the people below would actually be the sovereigns of their own destiny and of their nation to be able to decide what kind of governments we have sort of broken halfway through that and then we've gone to this reaction because in many ways we've seen the crumbling of very weak nation states in libya in syria in yemen and it's created. it's created great fear throughout the middle east that somehow the arab states are not going to be able to break in to this democratic. fourth wave that so many people hoped it would do because of economic failures failures of political culture and very few people have talked about the political culture side of this and but really i think underneath it all is an economic

question of poverty inequality and so forth you know toby if you look at it we could name all the countries but it seems like them most of the elites are still in place the deep state is that it's often referred to you can change the coloration of the landscape but it's still the same people that own the economy and benefit. from the economy and not average people. you know i think that's right and i think what. it is is entirely correct. one of the one of the concerns is. certainly in in my work a look at syria and egypt is looking at the economic instability not just trying to. look at it through the prism of democracy but looking at these nations can. stabilize long term i mean i spent before

many years before the arab spring i spent many many years in bosnia dealing with with many of the same problems. from an accountability perspective and rebuilding a state through economic development and you see the collapse. in bosnia repeating shows that we we haven't learnt very much in how to address many of these problems whether you're looking at it through. a process of accountability or a person saw of economic rebuilding but it is more that we just don't seem to learn it joshua pointed out and you put it at the beginning that the arab spring arab awakening this is a western but really what's happened also is that we have political islam on the rise as well added with the lections and this is a complication that the west certainly doesn't understand and there's joshua pointed out maybe there aren't political cultures in place that can adapt to the

islamic element with the democratic and secular element this is one of the huge stumbling blocks that we've seen over the last few years well absolutely not just over the last few years but if you look at you know historically western powers have always supported so-called secular governments in syria for example or indeed in iraq and the idea. you put a minority of people in charge of the country and there you divide and rule and that's what's happened you know fundamentally in the make up of most countries in the middle east following the. first world war when. victorious powers effectively carved up swathes of the middle east and to themselves and and indeed put in place the so-called secular governments now of course part and parcel of the culture of those countries is that they are fundamentally for the vast majority of them muslim majority countries so it's only

right that you know people feel a cultural but also religious attachment to that heritage and this of course following the toppling of despots led to the expression of that culture and led to islamic movement or winning elections and all the more so since you know you have to bear in mind events like the war on terror where you know this led to america effectively telling autocrats to repress any expression of islam where and muslims became you know potential terrorists across the arab world and the takeover if you like of muslim always movements post arab spring has led to some dissatisfaction in western capital gains if you judge or how much of this is really just the end of the the neo colonial experiment the west has had for this region

because this is also a dynamic that's being played out in the bill of. well there is that element that she said that minorities were put in to were given a leg up in every one of the eleven states in particular by the colonial powers and today you see the majority populations trying to overthrow them whether it's the shiites in iraq overthrowing the sunnis the sunni arabs in syria overthrowing the alawite and other minorities are we saw in lebanon during the civil war with the muslims fighting against the christians who had been given a lion's share of power and still today we have palestinians fighting against israelis and jews in for control of palestine so this is a national problem. of who owns the state who really represents the nation that's certainly in the levante and it's much like we saw in eastern europe central europe throughout the first half of the twentieth century where there was such extreme bloodshed we're still seeing it in crimea who are the

real crimea is are they russians are the ukrainians are they talk tars and and these national questions have not been decided and in the center of it as you say is political islam and is the question of the enlightenment really is citizenship based on. truce with a big t. on god and who are the chosen people who are going to go to heaven or is it based on citizenship of the nation of that everybody is equal within the nation and that there is still great disagreement about that and we see that in the syrian fighting for example both sides are calling each other calf it unbelievers and not only are they unbelievers but they had they don't belong to the nation to syria if they don't believe in the right god and it's very difficult to build a nation when you see the other your opponents your political opposites as people who don't even belong in the country and that i needs to civil war joshua let me

jump in here and we're going to go to a quick short break and after that break we'll continue our discussion on the arab spring stay with our to. leave. i marinate join me. in that impartial and find out what commentary can from this and much much. only on the bus and.

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ok i'd like to go back to the bill in london i think one of the interesting things that happened the last few years in the region is saudi arabia's role in a very reactionary regime and its funding quite a few people that are just as reactionary in the region and i'm thinking of like the military government in egypt of course we have the civil war going on in syria but this is a big important dynamic as well saudi arabia's new role or growing role in political change. well absolutely and not least of all because saudi arabia is absolutely terrified that to see its own arab spring happen again that's why it's reacting in the most reactionary and indeed repressive and outright autocratic matter manner interfering not only you know interfering in what's happening around around saudi arabia in other indeed turn of affairs of other

countries and it has you know. terrified as i said because they've witnessed a swift change that can happen very suddenly in countries and see. despots being toppled almost overnight and that's why it also sought to strengthen its links with western democracies and seek further help and not least of all in terms of military help it has you know we've seen powers western powers like the u.k. france and indeed america sell vast volumes of weapons to saudi arabia and straighten its business and trade links so if western democrats think that it's the right time to reassure not a critic regime like saudi arabia it really doesn't get disappearance of the arab spring you know tobie it's very interesting because you have this regime in riyadh then you have washington it's a stressful relationship we're told but nonetheless it continues on so we have

western values and we have values coming out of riyadh they don't actually mix very well do they but that's called religion we're told. it's a very interesting way of putting it think probably the relationship is very similar with my own government here in london. because we can see now that there is because of the steps the saudis have taken in relation to the brotherhood. in that part of the world and a lot of the statements of overshoot in relation to to egypt in particular and you can see the relationship now with the british government in conducting what's driving called a review of the muslim brotherhood here in our to kingdom. it is an it is an uneasy relationship but you can still see that the saudis are using their influence on on the western powers it joshua it seems to me that the saudis and the western powers

have something in common they don't like to say it publicly but they they would like to do perfectly would prefer to have some kind of or a republican militarism in the middle east states that's more manageable for the two sides that i'm talking about. well they don't know i think the united states is in complete confusion about what it wants in the middle east anymore our main relationships are with israel and saudi arabia both powers have wanted military leadership in egypt and that's been a driving force in this arab spring and america has fallen in line with them and that has confused there are discourse about democracy entirely and so we begin to look extremely hypocritical there's no doubt about it we're helping we're allied with the most islamist and fundamentalist nation in the middle east and that of course you know so when saudi arabia speaks out against atheism and and other political parties the united states is confused how do you support

a pro western element in syrian opposition when saudi arabia is in charge of funding this operation america's not going to fundamental supply it so america has really stepped out there confused they've seen syria for example become much more to ask the recent advances in the north a country by rebels has been led by the know sort of the al qaeda element and and the united states is is for the rebels and yet at the same time it's against al qaida and it doesn't it's completely confused and and that has you know that has i think led to america withdrawing from the region. ok inability i mean. so it's hard to say you know bill look at the outside forces particularly the western powers i mean they drew all these boundaries in the first place have they are acted responsibly because if joshua points out you get very different messages you have democracy promotion but you have to protect israel and then you have saudi

arabia which i don't think anybody really knows what to do with anymore because they have enormous wealth in the city of london in the united states and the there is plenty of people in the west that just want to turn a blind blind eye to their activities when it's so contradictory almost on every single front. well yes absolutely and as joshua rightly said what the arab spring did this bring into sharp focus the ambiguous and indeed hypocritical relationship between western governments and the arab world and america's foreign policy in particular is interesting because obama. obama's first and foremost aim is to maintain america's interests in the arab world in particular but he has actually trying to find a balance between achieving that and indeed while actually retreating as much as

possible which lead to very muddled policies in the arab world and indeed confused one as joshua said and effectively let two distinct just quote as we've seen in egypt you know america is still funding the military and effectively supporting a murderous army and a stable militarized is good for touring the shaw israel libya was the closest that the americans you know intervened in fact and he has led to now a very controversial intervention in a country now ruled by militias which is which are destabilizing not only and threatening. libyan. lives but also lives in other countries in the region and as far as the middle east peace process is concerned here and sample palestinian territories are still very much under israeli occupation occupation goals are is more than ever an open air prison and indeed america is not firm at

all about you know freezing the settlements illegal settlements which are the major stumbling block to finding a peaceful solution and let's not forget that peaceful. settlement of the middle east process and the resolution of these really palestinian conflict is also a guarantee for stability and peace in the whole of the region you know joe we have gotten so far over the last few years to go essentially nowhere it would seem. but it is quite right and i think both of what joshua said is completely right when we're talking about back confused politics and capitals not really knowing how to address some of these problems that we are looking at syria in particular. that you know we have unfortunately very very confused western capitals marrying what to do how to provide support whether intervention is justified.

has become a very very difficult situation knowing. really what kind of assistance and who can be assisted i mean since syria is one of the areas where where i've spent the majority of my time not physically obviously working over the last few years and in trying to look at a much more on a on a just a side rather than a political transition just because it is it is very difficult at this stage to have any viable political position that can be in place to to implement some form of change and i don't think that we've advanced very far and i think the confused policies of the west has contributed to a lack of a cohesive strategy and here we are no further forward than we were three years ago but there's one difference josh if i go to you there's one difference and that is

the possible reaching out to iran and this is something that we have we've never we haven't seen for what three decades and now we see we have this terrible mess going on in the middle east but we still have some kind of communication with that and i think that's a really interesting irony well it is that but before i talk about iran let me jump in and say it's very easy to blame much of what's going on on the west and it's confused policies and they certainly have been they have been very contradictory over the decades the but i think it's important to to underline that much of this is going to rest with the middle easterners themselves they have to find a way out of this their populations have become too big in many ways this is like. central europe after world war one the great powers drew lines after the empires were destroyed and in europe there were seventeen new nation states after world war one in the middle east there were many as well and the peoples were not reorganized

to fit with the national borders that were drawn and what we saw during the second world war is an extremely bloody process in which minorities were destroyed and the great sorting out is what i call that. fitting very important to me a do you think you for a caste that in the middle east the great sorting out because we are essentially saying ethnic cleansing it is happening it is what happening before our eyes it is happening ethnic cleansing and we've seen it go on as as people fight over who's nation it is we are seeing minorities get destroyed in some cases the minorities have become the majority in palestine israel the minority of jews were able to destroy the majority of palestinians and make themselves into the majority and that's what we've been seeing and palestinians have been largely left stateless and and but this process in lebanon in iraq in syria has been going on it's very

painful it's very bloody and it's much like what happened in central europe where poland was sixty four percent polish before world war two by the end of world war two almost one hundred percent and czechoslovakia twenty three percent minorities by the end of world war two they had been wiped out the germans sit denton's the jews and so forth and this national building process which is the extraordinarily painful and brutal is taking place in the middle east and there are many losers and i think the west is confused because there's really very little that could do it try to go into iraq and rearrange the power sharing and it failed miserably on that very different things you know josh it would have run out of time many thanks to my guests in london and in norman and thanks to our viewers for watching us here in our d.c. . next time remember. these are.

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at least find people like killed as kiev really long as chrono down on ukraine's east where people are defying the interim government and demanding greater up told me for their regions. moscow calls foci have to be held accountable for using its all me against civilians while the easy calls for the self-defense forces to lay down their albums. and angela merkel has to washington to discuss father sanctions on russia over ukraine the german is big business says strongly opposing labor.

and welcome to our international news live from moscow and you know thanks for joining us and we stopped with the latest pictures coming from. on ukraine's. a bank black sea closed what closures are taking place between pro unity and proton and supporters at the moment both sides are building barricades after taking over different streets in the center gunfire has been reported as members of the rival groups came face to face in the center of the city so it will finds are said to have been joined by members of the far right organization police are now on the scene the atmosphere is said to be tense with people pulling out the pavements and swirling the stones at each other. and the have already been for us reports of casualties coming from i.d.'s so where you can see increasingly chaotic scenes unraveling on the streets that the number of those injured has not been confirmed but ambulances have been seen in nearby for

funds to have been a brawling in the streets with the violence forcing individuals to flee or monitoring the developing story is around the day today and we'll keep you up to date. at least three ukrainian troops and true self defense fights is a big code as kiev launched a military assault on the eastern city of slovyansk which is held by government protesters right now the city in the donetsk region has a population of just over one hundred thousand and is now brooke a deal with people unable to evacuate the area. as we can see a desperate unarmed locals have been trying to prevent ukraine's military hardware from advancing by simply standing in its wake but the troops didn't seem all that concerned way through which kicked up

a storm came from ground on their side helicopters were sent to world this skies over slog but two were gunned down by the self-defense forces the ukrainian army decided to hold the air raids following the crash. i mean this appears to be footage showing the injured pilot after his helicopter came down and as you can see here the self-defense functions were sympathetic to this pilot i mean to his plight despite the fact that he's been sent to fight against them one of the activists says the man was abandoned by his own people. when the second helicopter was shot down we wanted to get closer but decided to save the first pilot he was abandoned by his own people they came up to him and took away his gun. actually this across ukraine southeast have been demanding a referendum to split from kier for months they've also been saying they want the

rights of the russian speaking ukrainians to be respected and they fear the extremist threat within the interim government there meanwhile unarmed unit of people dressed in the uniform of the new north so right sector has reportedly landed just outside and just to remind you who the rioters soaps are actually the only group that has been involved in attacks on ukrainians in the east along with the army however the government doesn't have full control over the radicals they have already come out against new rumors several times despite helping them to apologize to the violent in february and promise near appalls there once again ready for action against their fellow countrymen. we are hearing reports that members of the right stick to have arrived via helicopter we're being told they're heavily armed and that they have the uniforms of the right sector so that is how they've been easily identified as you can well imagine tensions are running high it's taken us about four hours to actually be into the town it is completely closed

off you have barricades and checkpoints at every single entrance and exit at the same time this is a town that is in lockdown the ukrainian military has completely surrounded it we're hearing from the ukrainian defense ministry that two of its pilots have been killed their words something between two and four helicopters that were downed earlier this morning we haven't been able to verify the numbers talking to the self-defense units they say that one of their members has been killed at the same time we're also hearing from the ukrainian authorities that at least ten checkpoints have been captured now protesters have been building barricades around them they've been reinforcing them with sandbags at the same time locals of those town have been coming forward to offer themselves as human shields trying to build a little barricades and away to the city center and. hold the attackers as long as possible so we're defending our city we don't want to let these bloody prosecutors come in we want an end to this crime against humanity in the southeast for how long

do we have to be afraid children and the elderly the old people the veterans who are ready to take their crutches and fight for their children but for now the city center is calm we're hearing shooting from the periphery this is a city where that's the situation is extremely tense and we people are preparing for further onslaught by the ukrainian army. and police keeping you up to date with also happening in flood beyond her latest tweets suggest self-defense units urging people to take shelter in apparent and disobey shelter yet another time follow her twitter feed for the latest updates on the military operation. moscow has expressed outrage over the use of military force against civilians saying kier must be held accountable for waging war against its own people meanwhile the e.u. says it's watching ukraine's military action in the east with quote growing concern but europe hasn't exactly been living up to its own proclaimed standards so says

political scientist at the european central jail political analysis discourse. if you look at other cases when the equipment and military forces are used against civilian protests all over the world european union stands in the events of human rights and events in defiance of his support of peaceful resolution of any of the conflicts in this particle our case and that level of double standards the level of the support of the visual figures of european union for the american version of. events in that is the new crying we have to ask several members of american political lives. they want to achieve now because what they are actually achieving now by suppressing militarily is suppressing the protest in the southeast of ukraine particularly as lebanon is that they will accept the situation in which

there will be no more will see believe the even the slightest possibility for a united ukraine. kiyo has previously made attempts to crush the proton a protest in ukraine's ease by sunday and beyond that two operations took place last month but were met with severe resistance from the locals and some of the troops and tons that were sent ended up signing along with the activists as soon as they and as the rest of the region. cranes forces are calling on self defense you know since to surrender and lay down their weapons in return for safety what had a chance to speak to some of the locals and they are determined to stand on in the face of the key of a lead open ration. used to be in the military but i've never raised civilians. like the cry old democracy democracy live in democratic country but in reality

explain to me where is it we don't even have the right to speak out they don't care . about the south east they decided to work things out without us to choose a president without us when. we're standing for the right cause and you don't want to fight and you want we simply want to live in a civilised state where everyone's rights are respected and we don't want to keep contact to rule yet though you know what you know covies did not send forces to my don square but the send this and they did it quietly at four in the morning just like fascists earlier you're not really going to move an age for a bit here let the tanks crush me but i won't move why my hubby is here my family my friends and the children here why should i leave my city because of that i did start a war with the it's they who said that i'll be here so we're using it on what you will do it's just impossible to live like this anymore tell me what country is

sending armed forces against its own people we have people being killed here public transport snot working for it is not making its way into the city all mothers are sitting and trembling and are asking for help while closely following the situation in ukraine and it will bring it that he's held as work at them. and official re-acquiring analysis on the us and european sanctions against russia stay with us. i marinate join me. in the park and finance our very

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this is the international let's move on. to the live pictures coming from a d.s.l. in the ukraine as black sea coast what clashes are taking place between pro unity and pro autonomy supporters of the moment both sides are building barricades after taking all the different streets in the center gunfire has been reported as members of the rival groups came face to face and the center of this city could go find as i said to have been joined by members of the far right organization police and now on the scene they must face said to be tense with people pulling out the pavements and throwing the star at each other. and there have already been rational case of casualties coming from all g.i.'s that where you can see increasingly chaotic scenes unraveling on the streets where one person is said to have been killed the number of those injured. that ambulances have been seen by google

finds something growing in the streets with the violence forcing individuals to leave will be monitoring this developing story throughout the day and will keep you up to date. the german chancellor angela merkel is visiting washington for the first time since the revelations that the u.i. it's had been listening to her phone conversations which at the time she labeled completely unacceptable other unfortunate revelations included a leaks conversation between u.s. diplomatic tori nuland and the american ambassador to ukraine where she didn't hold back in dismissing the merkel said to discuss the free trade agreement between europe and the u.s. despite brussels concerns about the standard of some american products the n.s.a. spying is expected to be addressed as well as there's still been no clear resolution of the scandal all that has angle of merkel is coming under pressure

from major german companies who don't want more sanctions against russia over the ukrainian crisis as based on of a ball. well an article in the wall street journal suggests very strongly that angle america has gone to the sea with a very clear message from german industry and that message is no more economic sanctions against russia the real big hit is in the german corporate world the likes of b.s.f. the chemicals giant siemens the engineering group bork's work in r.t. doubts deutsche bank they've all voiced concerns over potential sanctions further sanctions against russia we've seen public statements from some of the the real big cases in the german corporate world all of the saying that they diplomatic route must be the only route that's taken to try and find a solution to what's going on in ukraine and that that the business world should be allowed to go about its own business and not suffer at the hands of this when you look at the numbers you can see why they are concerned over six thousand german

companies have involvement in russia over three hundred thousand jobs here in germany alone rely directly on that trade on trade partnership with russia that would be a lot of jobs to be put at risk should further sanctions be put into play so it puts anglo american in a difficult position when she goes to talk to barack obama both have backed sanctions in the past but they are now looking like they both want different kinds of sanctions to be put in place but the situation over sanctions isn't the only thing that they're going to be looking at and have a listen to my report right now to find out what else is going to be on the table it's sent to be a meeting between two of the world's most powerful leaders but there are more than rumblings that the balance of power in the relationship is very one sided apart and doesn't stand up in the cuts they had this it's based in dependency through the u.s. denied spine and merkel cell phone ben admitted it snow which is continues because of mamma says were of the right to collect information i just see angola merkel

going to the us to pick up new instructions. the chancellor has come in for rip you could home for not pushing to allow edward snowden to give testimony at an investigation into n.s.a. activity in person her critics saying that she's looking to protect the image of the u.s. partners mrs merkel's visit won't just be watched closely in germany many in europe are angry that no leader really stood up to the actions of the u.s. in the aftermath of snowden's revelations trid is set to play a major role in the talks negotiations are still ongoing over the transatlantic trade and investment partnership or t.t.p. which could see an easing of current tight restrictions on the surface this could see both the e.u. and u.s. profit but it won't cost to consumers to genetically modified food homemade treated beef and chicken. eggs in germany ninety six percent of people think that e.u.

standards on environmental protection better than the u.s. on car safety the figures show ninety one percent in favor of the e.u. and on data protection eighty five percent didn't think the u.s. standards were up to the job more transparency is needed in te tip talks say those standing against mrs merkel's party in upcoming e.u. elections. the whole negotiations are taking place behind closed doors amongst a small number of people we must be vigilant when this type of deal is done with third world nations are often attempts to undermine the legal system of that land we will not accept this. while germany and the united states remain the firmest of friends on the international stage when i'm going to miracle sits down for talks with barack obama it looks likely that there will be some issues they certainly don't see eye to eye on. r.t. belin. and we are asked michael hansen and economics professor the university of

missouri if things position on sanctions will change the germans are very clear that they are not going to pursue sanctions that hurt german industry that would be the straw that broke the camel's back and there is some discussion in germany about do we want to really remain part of nato if we don't have a voice and do we really want to sacrifice german industry so that american industry can move in and take over the market that the german in the three years this is an american market grabbing opportunity from germany you can be sure of that with merkel's own democratic party there is a big argument over whether germany should make the sacrifice of its industry for american industry just because america says. the u.s. has spent nearly seven billion dollars as part of its efforts to tackle drug production in afghanistan but opium production is still at

a record high corporation between moscow and washington serves to put some pressure on the illegal trade across the globe but the amount of money comes directly into the country had little effect on the level of drugs flowing out so europe russia and the u.s. are on the receiving end of the drug trade that's now take a look at some of the figures here i'm gonna start as responsible for more than ninety percent of the world's opium production heroin production has also sawed and is now forty times higher so the invaded back in two thousand and one a one million drug addicts worldwide are estimated to have died in the past decade as a result meanwhile the u.n. estimates that afghanistan's total annual earnings from opium and heroin is more than three billion dollars aussies lissa conference report is not on the toll that drug addiction is taking on afghan society. but. there. are all of them still ravaged by drugs with no help in sight this is the face of

addiction in afghanistan one of many. beneath the bridge in the center of kabul a foul smelling sewer now school grades as a river and on its banks among the refuse. men with haunted eyes and hollow stares you know every day there are more they huddle in the shadows but there's no need to hide the police don't bother coming here. the supply is cheap there's heroin opium too and the tools to consume them. last year again is down recorded its largest opium harvest ever and the scene behind me tell the story of just how devastating that's been for the people here the men that have gathered here are part of a growing addiction epidemic according to the united nations more than a million afghans are addicted to heroin and opium out of a population of some thirty eight million people which makes up ghana's than not

just the world's top exporter of the drugs but one of its top consumers to me and that's despite billions of dollars and more than a decade of western efforts to curb narcotics here is going to study i don't know one of the money go there's no help they can facilitate for us to use this potential of a possible force to put it i want you to this it is official treatment clinics are struggling to cope we can cover the drugs of. god god is the government of egypt it can color not more than ten percent but ninety percent without any sound and we are way off the. g.c. . e.g. sing like that this is easy no i don't do that person like this that is good light . which makes these men some of the lucky few they're getting help it may not

be a traditional facility but it's a place to call home for up to twenty addicts at a time there's no medication just group therapy but they say the treatment works this woman they call mother harder we was haunted by her brother struggle with heroin appalled at the growing number of addicts and the lack of help so she stepped in she opened the treatment center and later this restaurant it pays for the expenses and gives the addicts a place to work but in this traditional society it's cost her more than money. my husband didn't approve of this and left me i haven't been able to see my children suzanne i've been threatened and even beaten here but missing my children has been hardest for now this is family i love. that the clinic checks in with the addicts some turn to heroin as refugees in iran or pakistan others were driven to drugs by economic despair when you have no

welcome no opportunity it's like death you cannot be productive so you take drugs to escape this former policeman began smoking opium after losing his leg to a landmine an addict for twelve years but thanks to his clinic cleaned for almost one. i made the decision to change my life around i tried many times before but now i have support it's a small victory but afghanistan's battle with drugs is likely to rage on. r.t.e. kabul. the live pictures coming from a day or so in ukraine's black sea coast where clashes a taking place between pro units here and proton and the supporters full funds are said to have been joined by members of the far right organization police are now on the scene the atmosphere is said to be turns with people pulling out of the pavements elsewhere in the stars in the chopper local town listed in the area even as this report from this. every hour to return to more news began

talking yesterday into somebody or another city hundred one was led by mean russian and other by members of the right. about half an hour later i came together on clash. injured. at the mall we'll go behind her while we carry on over newman street and. regular has been heard my medical records. as you have just heard there have already been first reports of casualties coming from a where you can see increasingly chaotic scenes unraveling on the streets one person is said to have been killed the number of those injured has not been confirmed but ambulances have been seen by federal funds have been drooling in the streets with the violence forcing individuals to flee that. and also remind over another developing story here and also international at least three ukrainian

troops and to self-defense fighters have been killed after a key of launched a military assault on the eastern city of slovyansk which is currently held by government protesters the city isn't the only creature and it has a population of about one hundred thousand and it's now blockaded with people i'm nabl to evacuate the area. and our correspondent in the city also reports that people have been told to leave the streets immediately however unarmed locals have been seen trying to prevent on the hardware from advancing by simply standing in their way the operation which could top at dawn came from both ground and air fighter helicopters were sent into the skies of the slug the two were gunned down by the self-defense forces the ukrainian army decided to hold the air raids following the clashes will be monitoring the developing story throughout the day and will keep you up to date. up ahead it's

a boom bust and unveils the shortcomings of the u.s. economy stay with us for that. jeffrey chapman from kansas is going on trial for murder but he is very afraid of jury prejudice is it because the jury is full of racists or has some sort of vested interest in seeing him get locked away no it is because he is a giant tattoo on his neck of the word murder written backwards wiser and backwards so he could read it in the mirror. nowadays we live in a total culture of almost complete entitlement so naturally chapman wants to leave jail on a special trip to a tattoo parlor to get the ugly ink changed or moved yet because he did something stupid his appearance now it is the obligation of the government to help him fix the problem he created often on these opinion pieces i am very critical of the

government but this time the man is totally right you can't just take everyone on special trips across town so they can look good for their trial it isn't the state's fault that he has the word murder on his neck the prosecutors even said that chapman that it would be ok if he covered it up with something like a stylish curve for dapper turtleneck sweater it is not the job of the government to help you get rid of your very stupid and very incriminating debt to a fascist my opinion.

over there i'm marinated this is boom bust and this is what's on the agenda for you today. first up we have a best selling author a condom is pundit and boom bust all star mr jim rickards live and in studio today now jim is sitting down with me to discuss the finer points of his brand new book and the death of money already a new york times best seller by the way so you definitely won't want to miss my

interview with him then in today's big deal we're introducing you to our own amazing amazing boom bust producer mr jonathan kim he's sitting down with me and word to talk and whether or not the economy there will soon outstripping us you will want to miss a moment but that's it. the . first quarter g.d.p. numbers for the u.s. came out on wednesday and they were not also quite the contrary him fact the u.s. economy barely grew in the first quarter as exports tumbled and business accumulated inventories stocks at the slowest pace in nearly a year now g.d.p. expanded at is zero point one percent a sharp cold. from a pace of two point six percent in the fourth quarter of two thousand and thirteen

now a calmness had expected growth to slow but only at a rate of one point two percent of course the slowdown is partly attributed to an unusually cold winter here in the u.s. but you have to question whether weather gets you to a zero point one percent number instead of the two point six percent of the previous quarter or the one point two percent that was expected so any way you look at these numbers aren't something to celebrate silver lining however there is room for optimism there always is a little room for i think now the u.s. jobs market seems to be healing payroll processor a.d.p. reported that it two hundred twenty thousand jobs were added to the payroll in the private sector in the month of march and consumer spending which accounts for more than two thirds of the u.s. economy increased at a rate of three percent that's barely below the three point three percent pace of the previous quarter what's more the latest monthly data shows that consumer

spending increased zero point nine percent in march after rising zero point five percent in february that's the largest game since august of two thousand and nine which isn't salaries which account for seventy percent of employment costs are also increased zero point three percent in the first quarter data so far including employment and industrial production therefore suggest that there was momentum in the economy at the tail end of the difficult first quarter providing a springboard for faster growth in april june period april to june period now bottom line we can't predict the future but we will keep you abreast of what's happening as the data comes in. jim rickards is a renowned economist author pundit and portfolio manager at west shore group now last time we spoke to records he gave us

a look into his new book the death of money the coming collapse of the international monetary system great and scary title by the way and today we want to continue our discussion of the book but also get a more practical take on what to do after reading the death of money so jim we want to have an in-depth conversation with you basically about you know the themes in your book the death of money and as i understand it the death of money you aren't saying to prepare kind of for this economic. apocalypse the you know doom but you're there are you should be poised to move to a new and different monetary and currency regime so is that correct or not is that my nailing it or no that's right and that's a pretty good summary when i say the death of money is a provocative title doesn't mean that money goes away completely but it does mean that there are a number of very important shifts one the dollar will lose its status as the leading global reserve currency ever two that will be displaced potentially but one of several things one is the s.t.r. which is the special drawing right it's a geeky name but you can just understand as world money printed like bank or that

idea well no no yes and no bank was actually john maynard keynes idea of bretton woods for kind of world money but keynes believe it or not one of the bank were to be backed by commodities including gold it wasn't a pure gold standard but he wanted gold in the basket the s.t.r. the special drawing rights is not backed by anything it's just another form it comes out of thin air the fed prints dollars the i.m.f. can print as the r.'s and they will the next time there's a liquidity crisis of the kind we had two thousand and eight it's going to be bigger than the fed because the fed took their balance sheet to over four trillion dollars we haven't had a liquidity crisis since i weighed over nine but so they print all this money anyway they get tens of. this was for the european central bank and so they're not going to be able to take it to a trillion or twelve trillion they're kind of at the algal limit of what they can do so where will the world with quality come from there's only one clean bounce she left in the world which is the i.m.f. the you know the fed's leveraged eighty to one the i.m.f. is leveraged three to one so the i.m.f. has a lot of headroom to print this world money right now i mean that's better all right time and now you predict that the value of existing currency it's going to take

a huge hit when this happens but where can people invest to prevent loss of housing bonds farmland you know where are they going to put their money i think investors should do what warren buffett is doing which is to put your money in the hard assets if you look at buffett's recent acquisitions a couple years ago he bought the burlington northern santa fe very well he bought the whole railroad took apart of what's a river it's a hard ass it's his land right away mining right signals yards which is rolling stock and cetera and has a railroad make money it moves hard this it's coal we corn steel cetera so it's the ultimate heart of supply buffets next big acquisition was oil and natural gas resources and by the way he can move his oil on his own railroad because you want one hundred tanker cars it's a pipeline a will he doesn't need the keystone pipeline so i see buffett is a guy was dumping paper money getting into hard assets to matter what happens to the dollar his stuff is still valuable so i think investors can do the same thing maybe we can all buy a railroad but you can buy a little bit of gold land fine art there are some hard assets you can buy that will preserve your wealth now according to some investors like mark faber basically all

asset classes are overvalued farmland aren't everything right now so are you concerned at all that investments in those assets will also take a hit well you have to be selective and look good there are no guarantees gold is volatile but gold is a volatile part of the because it's been manipulated by central banks and that's not guesswork in chapter nine of my book the death of money i actually give all the documentation they include some recently declassified documents from the ford library go going all back to the seventy's but continually up until the present day look at the bank for international settlements the central bank for central banks footnotes their financial stake. as they say they transact in the gold market on behalf of central banks and commercial banks so this manipulation is going on the statistical studies that show the same thing so if you're going to go into gold you have to be prepared to kind of fasten your seat belt drive the gold coast a bit at the end of the day it's the one asset that is always preserved wealth and so that's one choice will get to be selected i'm sure there's some farmland and i was somewhere that so overpriced but that's not the only land out there to buy my

fun is buying land in brazil ok but that's interesting right now because things have gone back the other way a little more south that's right. interesting now the new york times recently ran an article called the great divide in the art market where millions are spent on trophies leaving lots of arts and art collection sort of attention essentially so how does anyone besides the very wealthy and very knowledgeable can have money but not really know a lot about artwork how are they going to navigate the art market without getting their faces ripped off right well first of all you know you need about five billion dollars to one hundred fifty million dollars because. if you had two hundred million you're not going to blow hundred fifty one painting so that's that's a very rarefied atmosphere but there are some very good well managed our funds and there are some niches so twentieth century masters for example so we're talking are not talking about you know posters you put up in a college dorm we're talking about museum quality art but these are pieces you buy for maybe one hundred thousand or two hundred thousand and with the right sort of curation maybe

a sell the museum after three to five years they could go for seven or eight hundred thousand dollars so that's a way to you know kind of double or triple your money these funds are hard to find but they are they are out there and that's a way for investors in say one hundred thousand dollars range to pool their money with other investors in this area twenty million dollars poorer than you can transact in this market ok that's that's interesting to know that you do it via a fund you're not only not important you don't have to go to society and alone and that you know what she looks like i really i do invest in our father represent one i don't know anything about art but i know it's a good investment to the manager of the fund that i represent knows what he's doing so that's that's an exam. there's someone on staff everyone has that you know there is have you had to be careful how word some more funds are sponsored by dealers and there's a conflict of interest if you don't want to end up financing the deal with inventory it's like these movie deals everyone loves the glamour of investing in a hollywood movie deal but somehow you never get spider-man you always get the sense that we're going to be iraqi. but there are some good our friends out there but not just that i mean lance silver gold fine art is

a place for cash and people were surprised to hear me say that on the issues you really got to talk about the death of money why would you have cash well the answer is first of all cash is good in deflation and deflation is much more dangerous inflation but also gives you a lot of optionality if you have cash you might not have it for long but have it for now you're the person who can pivot into an asset class quickly where some people are fully invested they've been able to get out of things that don't work out so there's a place for cash also now famed expert on bubbles edward chancellor and money manager and. wrote the following just today about the art market here we have a quote right here that i want to throw up the art market provides an excellent barometer of the speculative given our prices depend entirely upon what other people are prepared to pay a bubble in modern and contemporary art which was evidence before the financial crisis has returned so how can art be an asset class that protects wealth in given that right well the thing is anything can go bubbly so i wouldn't i would dispute that and you say you are depends on what someone else will pay you for the same is

true for gold big corn to senator but the simplest way to think about it these are all denominated in dollars and we think of gold it is thirteen hundred now it's or art is you know hundred million dollars a painting right there coin is worth whatever it is for under five hundred dollars of cetera so they're really all bets on the dollar so what you have to ask yourself is what's the future of the dollar if you think the dollar is getting stronger you wouldn't necessarily want those asset classes if you think the dollar is getting weaker you would want those asset classes and the fed policies to have a weaker dollar so to me it's very easy analysis you don't have to think about it the fed are thought about for sure they're all just reciprocal the. if the fed and the treasury want to weak dollar which they do that's why the cars are worse role then you want those assets to preserve wealth jim we have to go to break but don't go out who are going to keep you around time now for a quick break but you don't go anywhere either because jim rickards is sticking around and he'll be back after the break to continue our discussion on wealth protection and what exactly that requires because it requires a lot then in today's big deal boom bust producer jonathan kim is joining me and

would harrison to talk about china and purchasing power parity that's before we go here a look at some of your closing numbers of the bell stick around. ok bill we will stand for europe the white europe the traditional europe for the free nations europe but. we should be arresting all those terrorists in kiev instead of all of the presidential candidates the military junta the nazis who gave orders to kill their own people just because their culture and their views of different.

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your wealth but is your advice mainly for the wealthy and what i mean by that what can the average joe smoe smell do to invest his money his or her money and if they can't afford to even partake in these funds he runs funds that trade arts and art what if you're well out of the alternative investments you no longer daugherty funds global macro art funds things like that you do have to be a so-called accredited investor a need a couple million dollars so if it is for the wealthier people but also with partners we've launched the west sure return income fund this is a mutual fund register with the f.c.c. it's open to all investors and the size and what we do we take investors' money and then we invest in the portfolio that includes some of the things i'm talking about so some of that we have invested in and are very good are fun we have some precious metals not not a lot but some and we also have emerging market stocks and bonds so this is a retail product that invests in the kinds of things i'm talking about the preserve wealth and protect you against inflation so even the small investor can have a look at that and i've got a good plug in the well that's just one one there are

a few other people doing this i think but even you know i talk to say if you have a million dollars for one hundred thousand gold if you have ten thousand dollars i did talk to a taxi driver in las vegas it only got ten thousand or does it buy one gold coin put it in a safe place now you know thirty percent of your investable assets and gold if everything's good you won't get hurt too badly but if things fall apart that gold will go up a lot and protect your wealth so there are things everyone can do ok that's going to now gold anybody brought it up where's it headed and why well in the in the intermediate term as head of march ever done this earlier by the way as i mentioned when you own gold you're fighting every central bank in the world central banks take gold because it limits their discretionary monetary policy so it would be the first one to say it's volatile you don't want to use leverage to. old is volatile enough so don't use levers to get into gold because just you know by kind of right i recommend physical gold coins and bars physical bullion not gold funds because the day you really want to go in gold starts to gap up you know hundred dollars a day and then two hundred dollars a day and so forth that's when they may close in or cancel

a come next futures contract you know terminate your contracts and yesterday's price but you miss out on today's action so that's when all the paper go will fall apart but physical gold you're fine the other thing is when the when the buying panic breaks out you may not be able to get go now the big institution central banks will get the gold they want but you may find the mint can't deliver your local dealer is out you may not be able to get it get the go i get people say hey jim in effect call me at three o'clock the day before everything crashes and i'll sell everything and buy gold so you know it doesn't work that way i'm not going to know the day before i can just see it coming ok now you know if currency lost its value everywhere today certain central banks russia u.s. and europe they'll be partially covered because they do have gold reserves correct china however they don't have as big of gold reserves but they do have a lot of cash do you think china should start buying gold well first of all their gold reserves are bigger than they disclose their official number is one thousand and fifty four tons that's what they say but they're lying they actually have some larger numbers say three or four thousand times it's hard to know exactly how much

but we do have some data we have a chinese mining output we have imports to hong kong that's publicly known and also in chapter nine of my book chapter nine of chapter eleven of the death of money their source and by the way there are three hundred footnotes in the book so that you can see here every season if you see something controversial i give the sources but they're bringing they're using military intelligence has to bring in gold off the books so they've got close to four thousand tons they're still buying more or so charges by my last trip to switzerland i didn't go to any bank so i went to vaults and refiners i talked i talked to the people who were handling the physical metal and they said chinese demand is for a shift they're sold a year in advance the chinese want more but they can't deliver because they get. take care of rolex and some other the jewelry customers and so forth but what's going on behind the scenes are you just go back to hong kong talk to a secure logistics person these are the people who move the gold and he said there's no let up in the demand so the only thing it's a bit speculative how much of those private demand in government demand there you

have to make some assumptions but we can easily say that china has three or four thousand tons they're out to get more the u.s. is eight thousand tons so china has little catching up to do and also didn't china recently overtake india as the biggest consumer. consumer gold importer but that's where there's a reason for that is worker questionnaire and because india slapped an import tax on gold because there were so many people buying gold it was throwing their current account into a bigger deficit so they put import tax on so that's when china pulled ahead but it had very unintended consequences which was india failed to understand how much value out of there was in the jewelry business so the gold would come in and they had the our distance would make the jewelry because a lot of it is women for their dowries with necklaces and so forth that the fabrication if you went to pakistan india hates pakistan great so they like so they may actually they may actually remove that my best information is going to remove the tax in the middle of this year is a big wedding season so you may see a voracious indian demand in the fourth quarter good to know thank you that's really great tip to have now you know another precious metal silver that's lost

over sixty percent and you know it had a high of a have a number it peaked near near seventy four she's made forty seven an ounce in two thousand and eleven so how can invest or deal with this kind of volatility unless he or she is speculating you know well i would say number one don't use leverage so you know many borrowed money that you have to pay off the don't don't use leverage per the way and just you know i you know i wasn't buying so over four years seven i think i'll get back up there by the way if gold is that five thousand of the seven thousand ounce which i expect silver will be at one hundred knots but it's going to the same volatility this is not going to happen tomorrow and over a couple of years but again my the easiest way to understand it is bernanke has said publicly he doesn't understand gold a lot of experts don't understand go but there's a very simple way to understand it it's the inverse. so the dollar if you think the dollar is going down gold is going up a price is that simple buy the if you think the dollar is getting stronger don't buy gold that's pretty simple isn't it actually this there you go now the picture i get from your book is that protecting wealth it requires a lot of energy and time and knowledge and not something that everyone can do and

that mostly sophisticated or wealthier people can can they have more access to do it but again it's difficult for people who know what they're doing so how can we possibly move to a new currency regime without increasing income inequality and causing total social on social unrest what we might and we talk i talk about it a book i talk about social and i've got three outcomes one is the the s.d.r. the special drawing rate the world money the other one is a kind of gold standard the third one is social unrest i don't know which one is going to be but i feel be one of the three and i've laid out in what i call intelligence where we go indications of warnings and w. so you can kind of tell which road you are but that is definitely a possibility income inequality will increase it's a serious enough problem so one of the reasons i wrote currency wars and the death of money i had no interest in writing for the academic already and so the professors i wanted to write for every day since since they can read it and just kind of well get it from selves a little bit so that's that's really hopefully my audience and the big guys always take care of themselves very you could be fine but look at who gets wiped out in this it's teachers firemen policemen people with pensions fixed incomes retirement

annuities insurance they're the ones who get wiped out the banks the hedge funds the billionaires they do find the central banks do fine so i think i think you're right in the sense that and by the way if things get really bad we have what i perceive as money riots you'll see in the fascist response you'll see the government using executive orders look at local police forces they look like they're there they're all swat teams they've got body armor night vision goggles flash bang grenades battering rams roms so you know what your friendly local cop is not getting kids out of trees they're going to break down your door so that force is ready if there's too much social unrest this is fantastic it's always such a pleasure having you here you are a robust all star so thank you sara time on your insight as always that was a connoisseur off there and brings us fave jim rickards time now for today's big deal.

we have an awesome and very special big deal my very favorite producer next to my other very clever producer going to great group of guys around me this is producer jonathan cam he's here to talk with myself and learn about china and its economy will soon outstrip the u.s. so this is jonathan jonathan first time on the show and have been coming on from time to time to house help us work through material here on the big deal now the u.s. is the biggest economy in the world with a g.d.p. out upwards of sixteen trillion dollars china on the other hand has a g.d.p. of eight trillion dollars but a new world bank report suggests that depending on how you look at it china might take the u.s. as title in the heavyweight economic division so jonathan can you tell me a little bit about the support and what does it say about the size of the u.s. economy relative to the size of china's right so this is a report out of the world bank's international comparison program and basically it

was trying to do is compare the cost the cost of the real cost of living in the purchasing power of countries around the world and it has data for two thousand and eleven and what they found was that the chinese economy is eighty seven percent of the u.s. economy and that's up from forty three percent in two thousand and five so there's been a big change over short amount of time and they actually are forecasting that perhaps in this year or even the next couple of years the chinese economy will overtake the u.s. economy in terms of size wow so can you explain a little a little bit about purchasing power parity this is like kind of the world of the week here the p.p.p. and rightly what that means in this whole analysis right so the p.p.p. is what the use of to draw this comparison in the p.p.p. basically assumes that price. four identical products are the same across countries so let's give you an example like it was the say that the canadian dollar is valued at one point five to one dollar u.s.

dollar is one point five canadian dollars to one u.s. dollar and i want to buy an apple in canada that cost one point five dollars canadian dollars that should cost one u.s. dollar but it sometimes doesn't and the reason why it doesn't because the market exchange rate sometimes overvalues us dollars sometimes hundred dollars u.s. dollars and so that's the reason why you did this isn't cost the same amount in both countries even though it's the same apple and what's important in this situation is that the chinese economy does undervalue its currency so you know that they say that the u.s. is economy g.d.p. is sixteen trillion dollars and the chinese economy is a chill in dollars but when the chinese economy essentially says that we want our currency to trade at a lower amounts and then that kind of distorts that whole entire picture and that's what this report is probably trying to correct so what do you think basically do you think that purchasing power parity. you know it does it helps under stuart this

distorted evaluation for g.d.p. i think it's a useful idea. basically because people do know that china is trying to keep its. low and so this is an attempt to try and understand really how big the chinese economy is. but you know some people don't think that's a very useful idea ok now and i'm sorry i missed you over there but you know it's time to bring him into the fold here now what's your take on this report what do you think i think the only benefit you know. what the only benefit of having this at purchasing power parity is the fact that you get a sense of how big china is in real terms so if the chinese economy were to detail the rate as it's doing now it was a ten percent growth per year now it's slowing down toward the seven percent per year. then the question is what sort of impact will that have externally in the global economy as a whole you know there used to be a time when people say united states catches a cold the rest of the world gets influenza you know now we're getting to

a point where countries like brazil russia india china are so that when they do celebrate as they're doing right now then it's going to have a disproportionate impact and i think that looking at this from a purchasing power parity perspective gives you a sense that it's actually even more of an impact than you might think at prevailing exchange rate ok so how does that basically fit into your understanding of the current direction of the chinese economy what does how does that all fit into i would say it's almost the reverse in knowing where the chinese economy is going gives you a sense of you know the relative impact given how it looks in a purchasing power parity perspective so you know used his deceleration from ten percent to seven percent what does that mean in terms of the effect that it's going to have on people that treated with china economies that used commodities that china is now consuming what we see that it will probably have a very disproportionate effect given how important china is on

a purchasing power parity based every thirty seconds so a good fifteen from both but what are some of the geopolitical implications of this of the chinese economy becoming bigger or the biggest in the world. we're going to do for a while not exactly sure i think that i think we're going off of what ed said it's really important to people in mind in terms of driving your risk because of the size of the condom is much greater than we assume that has consequences you know in other places right so and i think that the chinese are looking to downplay this because they don't want to take on the role that the united states has had there was a report out that the chinese have been trying to keep this report from being. you know it's not happening in the chinese media for that reason so they don't like this report geopolitically they want to put thank you so much jonathan thank you so much this is a great i mean great big deal that's all for now but you can see all segments featured in today's show on you tube and right over here you know the slushy stuff the horror facebook facebook dot com our day or you can tweet us at or an aide at

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